So as i am sure some or most of you know about MT suing Demello over his kick out sliders. Supposedly they have a ™ on how the kickout attaches to the rub rail itself. Something about the angle. What a bunch of BS! It's a metal tube welded to another metal tube! There are only so many ways to do this. It's a shame as Jason has been forced to discontinue this product or face a lengthy court battle. I can understand protecting your intellectual property but this is a freaking joke! They don't even look the same! Funny thing is they sell Ironman 4x4 products which are an exact ARB rip off! I guess it's ok to sell BLATANT rip off designs on their website as long as it brings in money. I guess they didn't like that someone built a better mouse trap. That's too bad, competition drives this industry. i have always had a lot of respect for MT but this has put a real sour taste in my mouth. Rant over.